background

Thursday, August 30, 2012

Brian's P.T.S. Experience


I have been in contact with a man named Brian who went through the surgery and recovery process about 10 years ago. There was very little information available about subluxing peroneal tendons at the time, and Brian had a very rough recovery. Here is his story:

I had this surgery performed on me 10 years ago. 

I sprained my ankle in February 2001 and it just never seemed to heal. I was, and still am to this day, an athletic person (to give you an indication of my general fitness and level of activity at the time of injury and recovery). I was 28 at the time. 

I sprained it while hiking. I slipped on a rock, fell on my butt first, and both my feet hit the ground hard simultaneously second. The sprain was caused by hitting another angled rock (don't recall the direction of the angle). It wasn't a classic inversion injury. I heard a very loud pop and felt immediate and intense pain which subsided after about 10 seconds or so. Massive swelling afterwards, but that's probably because I had to walk about two miles down the side of a mountain in Gatlinburg to get to my car and then drive 30 minutes to the ER spot before being able to ice it and prop. Despite the injury, while going down that mountain trail, I could still walk with some pain and the ankle felt stable.

Months had passed and I still had a lot of pain and swelling, more toward end of day and definitely linked to activity (even if just walking). Some days were better than others, but I knew something was wrong. The pain could best be described as a "constant dull and rather vague throb" which started out in the morning light but consistently intensified after using it in any way.

Later on during rehab, I knew my ankle "clicked," or "snapped" when I made certain motions, and I could sometimes even feel something like a chord moving in my actual leg occasionally while walking. You could see the tendon moving around the ankle bone region when it would happen if you inspected it directly. 

After awhile, I figured out how to "make it happen" when I put my ankle in certain positions (can't remember now how I did it, but could do it at will back then). It didn't hurt when I forced it to sublux, so I didn't think too much of it other than to think that "in time, that strange noise and feeling too will pass." 

At first, I saw a general surgeon and went through extensive PT (was finally discharged because my ankle was so strong and stable). But I still had the pain and swelling and it was rather debilitating despite "my overall good ankle health". In addition the spot over the superior peroneal retinaculum was always tender to the touch. Not badly painful, just tender to the touch in that specific spot. Mentally, I made it through every day living but was a nervous wreck. I graduated from school, started my first professional job, got married, etc.

On my PT's advice, I went to an orthopedic foot and ankle surgeon highly acclaimed in my area. At first, he had me wait some more time. He told me that ankle sprains can hurt and swell for a long time, more time than people might think. Then, after more time passed (maybe a month), he suspected a longitutudal tear of the peroneus brevis. After an MRI (which didn't show anything), a steroid injection to help confirm his clinical diagnosis (which helped), and some more passing time the doctor agreed to perform exploratory surgery. He opened me up in October that year and found that my superior peroneal retinaculum was fully torn. Everything else in my ankle was fine. He did a bone block version of the surgery (he basically took a piece of bone out, placed my tendons underneath, and screwed the bone back in place). He told my dad that he did this because repairing the actual retinaculum had a high failure rate and this technique was very successful for him. He also indicated that he did the same surgical procedure on a professional athlete the prior week. 

After the surgery, it did take a long time for it to get back to normal. For me, nearly a year and a half. Unfortunately, I had some wound healing issues. My surgical incision opened and it had to heal by secondary means (i.e. it had to heal by scarring). My mom, a nurse, packed my wound every day for a month and kept it sterile. It healed and I was fortunate, with antibiotics, to not have suffered any infection.

The first six months involved more pain and more swelling (my doctor prescribed a compression stocking which helped). 

I had pain around my surgical scar for a long time (which rubbed against my shoes driving me crazy). I complained about it a fair amount back then to my doctor as I recall, and he offered with some hesitation to open me back up (after much begging on my part) to remove the screw, which he suspected was the source of my pain. 

In the end, I heeded his advice and didn't do a second surgery. He told me he could do it anytime and that the longer I wait the more likely the body will heal it on its own. Apparently the human body is an amazing "machine" that is very capable of correcting itself, it just sometimes takes a lot of time.

Following his advice, I just "accepted the pain," knowing I could have the surgery on my terms if needed it, and moved on with my life. 

In March of 2004, three years later, I was basically better. I started doing heavy dead lifts and squats again, running seven and eight miles at a stretch, etc. I looked down one day (remember, at this point, I had "accepted my condition" and didn't dwell on it anymore), and noticed no swelling and no pain. This was after a ten mile run. At that point, I knew I had healed. 

So here is my advice to you reading this right now and doubtless suffering like I did: Chin up. If you have this condition and need the surgery, get it. It will not heal on its own because the subluxation won't allow it and the retinaculum gets little if any blood in the best of circumstances. It seems to me that if it's still intact and just stretched, then you may be able to avoid the surgery given some immobilization and a lot of time, but otherwise you pretty much need it.

It's a long road, but in the end after everything I went through, was totally worth it. The success rate (at least for the bone block version) is very high (I mean, seriously, if its wedged between bone it cannot move out of place anymore).

This condition is not like cancer or a disease to where if you don't fix it you will suffer mortality. But if you are even the slightest bit athletic, or just hate that constant pain and swelling, then do it. Find a good foot and ankle specialist, the best in your area. Ask around. Find out who treats the professional sports teams, ballerinas, etc. in your area and book an appointment with them, even if you have to wait a month to see them.

It's a rare condition and general orthopedic doctors just don't seem to know much about it; but the specialists see it all.

It's worth every second of the recovery to get your life back, regardless of the time it takes to finally mend.





Thank you for sharing this with us Brian! I will post a follow up from him soon! If you have a story about your experience with an ankle injury, email me at emmagreenie@live.com and if I get your permission, I will post it to this blog!


Monday, August 27, 2012

Professional Athletes Aren't Exempt From Subluxing Peroneals

Lately I have been paying attention to a couple of sports injuries where players have gotten Subluxing Peroneal Tendons. Ankle sprains most often happen while a person is being physically active, and professional athletes are just as prone (if not MORE prone) to this injury as the rest of us.

One recent instance happened during the 2012 Olympics, which just ended a couple of weeks ago. Lindsey Berg, the US Olympic volleyball captain suffered an ankle injury that took her out of the game. Though at the time of her ankle pop, "The three-time Olympian said she didn’t think the injury was serious." (Source) that doesn't mean that the injury won't require surgery.

This is very common for an ankle sprain resulting in subluxing peroneals. More often than not, if you haven't ever experienced the sensation of your tendons popping over your bone, you will have no idea what it is, and you will assume that it will heal on its own. Here is what Dr. Silverman from Silverman Ankle and Foot suspects of Lindsey's ankle injury:

"What most likely has happened is a peroneal tendon subluxation. Peroneal tendons stabilize the outside of the ankle. When the ligament that holds them in place becomes damaged, they can pop out from behind the ankle, causing pain and inflammation. People can play in the short term through peroneal tendon instability, but if left untreated it results in peroneal tendon tearing."

Brendan Mundorf, a Lacrosse player for the Denver Outlaws appears to be suffering the from the same ailment. During practice on Friday he twisted his ankle, and is now facing surgery. The way he describes his injury screams out to me that he definitely has subluxing peroneals. Here is how Mundorf describes it:

"Some tendons came off on my ankle on the bone," Mundorf said in his first comments detailing the injury, which occurred when he was hit with a stick on the outside of the ankle Friday. "Something holds them down, and that tore." (Source)

I want to wish both of these athletes the best of luck on their ankle recoveries! I hope that they will be back to playing the sports that they love as soon as they possibly can!

Monday, August 20, 2012

Another Recovering Ankle

Great post on financial aspect of the surgery Emma! Fortunately for me, I was already working (and had good insurance) when I needed surgery; so no insurance issues (I think, I did not get a bill yet!).

I had some different experiences than Emma post-surgery. I had taken the nerve block too which wore out after a day or so. I started taking Vicodin which is a pretty strong pain killer. Even then, I had to bear some moderate pain. I did not experience much nausea and did not throw up at anytime. I was able to get off the pain medication after a week.

I think my surgeon has a slightly different recovery plan than Emma's. After about two weeks, I was put in a hard cast (I found out that the thing I was in just after my surgery was a splint and not a cast). First, they cut through the splint and bandaging and looked at the surgical wound. I was myself pretty anxious to see how it looked like since I had woken up from the surgery all bandaged. I thought that my foot was slightly swollen and looked a little out of shape. My surgeon thought that the wound was healing well. Then, they removed the stitches (I had six of them) which was a little painful. After that, I was put in a hard cast (see the picture below).

Hard cast 2 weeks after surgery (I got to pick the color!)
The good thing about this is that, it is weight-bearing (there is a special cushion that is put at the bottom of the cast). It was pretty difficult to put weight on it or stand on the first day. The leg felt really weak and fragile. But after a few days, things started getting better. I am able to walk without a lot of pain now. I still can't walk for a long time but it is better than having to use crutches to move around.

I would have to wear this cast for about 4 weeks after which they are going to start physical therapy. For showering, I use a cast cover which you can find in any pharmacy. It protects the cast from getting wet. I think I am on my way to getting back to normal and will update this blog as soon as I reach my next milestone. Adios!

Saving Money on Your Surgery



Many people wonder how they can save money while preparing for a major surgery. When dealing with subluxing peroneal tendons, surgery is almost always the only option for permanent recovery. Here are my suggestions, especially for college students or those with bad/no insurance! Keep in mind that I'm not a doctor and these are only my suggestions after having gone through the surgery twice now (and both times as a student with bad insurance!)


  • Do the surgery over some sort of break in school (my first surgery was over Thanksgiving break 2007, and my second one was over Christmas break 2011). For the first week or so you will be pretty much on bedrest.  If you do have any type on insurance, get your surgery done before August of that year. Or else wait for January. This will prevent your deductible from starting over mid-recovery, thus saving you a lot of money! 
  • Pick a doctor/surgeon before seeing anyone else. Don't go to instacare. They will misdiagnose and charge you way too much. A general practitioner will just refer you to a specialist so that's not a good option either. Pick an ankle or sports medicine doctor. That way, the first visit can be treated as your initial visit, and you shouldn't need any other appointments before the surgery. 
  • Tell the doctor's office that you are a college student and have bad or no insurance (over the phone before you go in to the office,) and see if they can do anything to help financially. Sometimes they give discounts to students and/or those without insurance.
  • Go to a local thrift store and buy a set of crutches and possibly even a walking boot there (if you can find one in really good shape.) Then tell the doctor beforehand that you have those items so that they aren't charged to you. This will save hundreds of dollars. 
  • When it comes to physical therapy, do the same thing, call ahead and tell them you are a student or that you don't have insurance and see if they have a special rate that they could give you. 
  • Explain on your first physical therapy visit that you can't afford to keep coming to the office, and you want him to give you instructions and a theraband so that you can do all of your workouts at home. If you need exercise equipment for your physical therapy, look for used equipment on craigslist or ebay so that you don't have to go into the P.T. office to use it. But working out at home, you shouldn't need to see your physical therapist anymore. Maybe one last time just to see if it's healing correctly. By cutting your visits down from 8 or more to 1-2, you will save a lot!

I hope some of these tips are able to help someone out there who is considering this operation, but is really concerned about the costs associated with it!

Friday, August 10, 2012

Recovering From Ankle Surgery

Thank you to Bhargav for the wonderful post below! Click here to read it if you haven't yet! He is going through the recovery process right now, so his insights are invaluable!

Many people ask me about the recovery following the ankle surgery to correct subluxing peroneal tendons. Most doctors say that it will eat up about 6 months, but it actually hasn't been that long with both of my surgeries. I am mainly just going to cover exactly how the recovery went according to my last surgery, since it was only 9 months ago and it's still fresh on my mind.

I had my surgery on the morning of December 21st, 2011. I was terrified. Even more-so because I remembered how horrible the surgery and recovery had been after my first surgery in Oct. 2007. But I went in to the hospital with my wonderful husband, who stayed by my side for as long as he could (basically until I was taken to the anesthesiologist).

After the prep, surgery, and short recovery time in the hospital, by that afternoon I was ready to go "home" to my parents house. We decided that I should stay with my family for the first couple of weeks following the surgery (plus it was their year for us to spend Christmas with them!)

I was put on a week of strict bed rest. This may sound like the most boring thing ever, but I was so groggy the first couple of days home from all of the medicine administered at the hospital, that I pretty much spent about 20 hours per day sleeping. The remaining 4 hours was spent eating and watching movies. Below are some of the pictures of my "home" on the couch for the first week following the surgery.



The nerve block put in at my knee started to wear off on Christmas Eve. For most people, that just means that it's time to start taking the heavy medications. For me, it means either take the heavy meds and become violently ill (I am allergic to lortab, percocet, etc.) or don't take the meds and suffer through excruciating pain. Tough choice, and I did a little of both. I was extremely sick on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. I slept through most of the present-opening festivities, and spent the remainder of the time wishing I could die, and vomiting.

Luckily, that was the worst part of the whole recovery, and after I made it through that part the rest was a piece of cake! Two weeks after the surgery, my bulky hard cast was removed. I was then fitted for a walking boot (but still to use crutches for the first 2 weeks). Four weeks after getting the walking boot, I was fitted with an ankle brace. I was to wear the ankle brace for about a month, and start going to physical therapy 2 weeks after being fitted for it. Therapy was supposed to go 8 weeks. So for those of you keeping track, that's about 5 months from start to finish. And really only one month of using crutches. After the crutches are gone, the recovery is easy. So there is really only one month where your physical activity is extremely restricted. Heck, I bet you could even do a basic treadmill workout as part of your home therapy after getting used to wearing your walking boot.

Now, the recovery is going to vary depending on your doctor. I would say that you should probably go into the whole thing expecting 6 months before being totally back to normal, but don't be surprised if it's actually a lot shorter.

Remember that if you have a question, or would like your ankle story to be featured on subluxingperonealtendons.blogspot.com just email me at emmagreenie@live.com. I would love to hear from you!


Tuesday, August 7, 2012

More subluxing peroneals

Hi everyone!

I am bhargav and underwent surgery for subluxing peroneal tendons two days back! My left ankle peroneal tendons starting subluxing after I tore my Superior Peroneal Retinaculum (SPR) while playing tennis. There was a distinct popping/snapping sound and it definitely does not sound good. The ankle looses all stability and you are not able to stand or walk. At first these are diagnosed as ankle sprains but watch out for those "clicks" that you might feel while you walk on uneven ground or when you climb down stairs. There are a couple of youtube videos I found that might help you understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaIQBfXZZt0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMRCb8k3FSI

In any case, I was not convinced with the ankle sprain diagnosis and went to see a specialist. Meanwhile I stumbled on Emma's article and became quite sure of what had happened to my ankle (Thank you Emma!!). Unfortunately, the only path back to an active lifestyle after this is surgery. More information can be found on these two websites:

Peroneal subluxation 1
Peroneal subluxation 2

I just underwent a surgery involving groove deepening and SPR repair for my subluxing tendons. I am in a cast now (for about two weeks I think) and then would be in a walking boot for about 2-3 weeks. The rehab process is supposed to take about 3-4 months. I will keep you folks updated on this rare and as Emma said, Life Changing condition.

Day 2 after my surgery (still getting used to crutches!)

Friday, August 3, 2012

Welcome to the Subluxing Peroneal Tendons blog!

Hello all!
My name is Emily Green (sometimes known as Emma), and I am a fan of fitness, exercise, dogs, food, and many other things. I have started this blog as a way to talk about my experience with subluxing peroneal tendons in my left ankle. Over the last 4 years, I have had 2 surgeries to correct this problem. My fingers are crossed that my most recent surgery (in December of 2011) will be my last ankle surgery ever.

My main goal with this blog will be to increase awareness of this fairly rare, but serious problem. I will also be doing FAQs so if any of my readers has a question about my ankle surgeries, please don't hesitate to email me at emmagreenie@live.com I will post your question and the answer on my blog (with your permission), and hopefully we can raise more awareness that way!

In the meantime, check out this article that I wrote that goes into detail about what a subluxing peroneal tendon is. Check back as I will post to this site every so often with information about this life-changing injury!

Immediately Following my Dec. '11 Surgery